Marc Maron says Louis CK lied to him about sexual misconduct claims

Marc Maron Says Louis C.K. Lied to Him When Confronted About Sexual Misconduct Rumors

"He's my friend and it's a hard position to be in", Maron said.

"He's my friend and it's a hard position to be in, because I certainly can't condone anything he did", he said.

He spent the first 20 minutes of the almost 90-minute episode on the subject, starting with the obvious: "There's no way to justify it, no way to defend it, no way to apologize for him for it".

Maron went on to say he knows how pernicious the problem is - it even happened to him. And not just listening to someone's story, or listening to something someone says - to put yourself in the place of another person, that requires work.

Every so often, the story about him forcing women to watch him masturbate would pick up momentum in the media, and Maron said he asked C.K. whether it was true. But when Maron asked if it was true, he said Louis C.K. had denied it.

"When you have man brain, or are not capable of empathising properly with women - which I don't think a lot of men are, though I'm not going to speak for all men". "He goes, 'No, it's not true".

When Maron would suggest C.K. quash the rumor publicly, the "Louie" creator would say, "No, I can't. I can't give it life, give it air".

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Among the many people having to reckon with last week's confirmation that Louis C.K. sexually mistreated female comics and writers over the years are the star's male friends in the comedy world. "There was no place for them to go with these stories where they felt safe to tell them". I kept silent as they denigrated women, or explained to me how I wasn't like the other gays. I know Rebecca Corry [one of the women Louis C.K. exposed himself to] and she couldn't tell me about this. "There was no place where they could go with [their] information". There were no women attached to it. I didn't know their names until Friday. I'm gonna be his friend.

Maron announced the album and said it will include "the full original lineup", and Deal later noted that the band worked with producer Steve Albini on parts of the record. And it's (expletive) sad.The work environment, the social environment makes it hard for people to come forward and be heard, to be listened to, to be believed, and for action to be taken. "It is pushed aside, it is dismissed, it is framed as an annoyance or an embarrassment, it is used against people, it is used as a threat, that is the structure that exists in life".

One of the allegations had been circulating in the comedy world for more than five years via a blind item published on the now-shuttered website Gawker. "It's a Wild West show". At the beginning of my career when I was invited into some lesser comedy boys' club, I did my best to play by their rules. "Yeah, I guess it is".

"What the big deal is that it's boundary shattering", Maron said.

At that point, Maron wasn't sure that there was more he or anyone else could have done if they were just going by rumors that could be third hand at best. They could have left, they could have done this, they could have done that. "That was the conversation", Maron said. "It's creepy. It's massively inappropriate".

"I'm disappointed in my friend". If you don't feel like you're changing quick enough, you can behave. "Obviously you know about that".

Maron contends that he "knew what most people knew". "Get help, because the most secrets you keep, the more malignant it becomes". "If they have to keep doing it, they have to keep hiding it, from their friends, from their husbands, from their wives", he said. "He did some gross s-, some damaging s-". "He fucked up. He's in big fucking trouble". I want to ensure that all voices around me are heard, and that everyone is treated respectfully and empathetically. "It's probably the best time to be his friend when he needs to make changes in his life". "I can learn from it, he can learn from it". "Handle it? Get out from under it whenever it shows up?" I looked up to the people who recognized my work and made them (sigh), father figures/mentors whether they wanted that role or not. "It's a predicament for them". "And I wielded that power irresponsibly". In the wake of the scandal, Indie distributor The Orchard cancelled the November 17 release of C K's film 'I Love You, Daddy, '. "Adding that C.K. simply said, "'No, I can't, I can't do that.

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